John Baldwin being first duly sworn deposes and says:
I am 70 years of age, and was born in Ashe County, N.C. and moved to Virginia when I was three years old, in Grasyson County and have lived in Ashe County since 1861. I have always been taught that I had Cherokee Indian ancestors, I claim my Indian blood through my grandmother on my father's side. He was William D. Baldwin, and his mother was a Hart. My father lived in Grayson County, Va. He was a very old man when he died. I never heard that he ever received any money from the Government on account of his Indian blood. It was unanimously talked through the settlement and in the family that he had Indian blood. I went to Tahlequah and proved my Indian blood. This was years before the Dawes Commission, when I claimed and proved my Indian blood in the Indian Territory. The Dawes Commission turned my claim down. I have stayed in Indian Territory several months, but I have never lived with the Indians out there. My father, William D. Baldwin, also proved up out there. My grandmother on my father's side was Catharine Hart. My recollection is that she was the daughter of James Hart. I never heard of but one Hart family. I think Ned Hart and James Hart were related. They lived in Ashe County, and some of the family in Grayson County. Catharine Hart, I think, was the daughter of Ned Sizemore. Elisha Blevins gave me theinformation contained in my application. I have known him all of my life until his death. I do not recollect that he ever told me where Ned Sizemore came from or where he died. He said I favored old Ned Sizemore, and called me "Ned" many a time. I never heard him say whether Ned Sizemore had a beard or not. I have seen James Hart many a time. He looked like an Indian, and he, as well as all the Hart family, were regarded as Indians. I have seen Ned Hart hundreds of times, I do not remember when I last saw him. When I was a young man he was getting to be a pretty old man. He resembled an Indian very much. My grandmother, father and I were considered White people, but when people go mad with us, they would throw up Indian. I did not mind it, because my father and mother taught me that I was part Indian.
Subscribed and sworn to before me at Grassy Creek, N. C., this 6th day of April, 1908.
J. Edward Tylor
Assistant to Special Commissioner
Court of Claims.